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		<title>Comment on Vermonters Protest Senator Leahy for NDAA by The Occupations Report: 1/13/2012 &#124; INTEROCCUPY.NET</title>
		<link>http://occupyvermont.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/vermonters-protest-senator-leahy-for-ndaa/#comment-1088</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 16:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Images from #Occupy #Vermont #Protest during #Obama visit by Riversong</title>
		<link>http://occupyvermont.wordpress.com/2012/04/03/images-from-occupy-vermont-protest-during-obama-visit/#comment-1017</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Riversong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 01:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Question 1) Why would whomever put up these pictures prominently feature the one that demeans the movement without saying anything?

Question 2) Why would anyone so demean themselves and the movement by carrying such a sign?

Question 3) Unless someone has evidence that Obama fucked someone&#039;s mother (other than the mother of his children), what is this message intended to convey?

Question 4) Why would Occupy folks tolerate such an abuse of freedom of speech by one of its own that does nothing but undermine the popular credibility the movement has tried to build?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Question 1) Why would whomever put up these pictures prominently feature the one that demeans the movement without saying anything?</p>
<p>Question 2) Why would anyone so demean themselves and the movement by carrying such a sign?</p>
<p>Question 3) Unless someone has evidence that Obama fucked someone&#8217;s mother (other than the mother of his children), what is this message intended to convey?</p>
<p>Question 4) Why would Occupy folks tolerate such an abuse of freedom of speech by one of its own that does nothing but undermine the popular credibility the movement has tried to build?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Direct Democracy Process 101 by Riversong</title>
		<link>http://occupyvermont.wordpress.com/direct-democracy-process-101/#comment-1016</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the typo &quot;on one has veto power&quot; obviously should be &quot;no one has veto power&quot;.

Why isn&#039;t there an edit function to allow the correction of such typos?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the typo &#8220;on one has veto power&#8221; obviously should be &#8220;no one has veto power&#8221;.</p>
<p>Why isn&#8217;t there an edit function to allow the correction of such typos?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Direct Democracy Process 101 by Riversong</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consensus Decision-Making
A Path to Collective Consciousness

Robert Riversong
Written October 15, 2002
Revised April 8, 2012

In Native American talking circles, they say:
&quot;We just speak until there is nothing left but the obvious truth.&quot;

Consensus decision-making process is a method of nurturing the spirit of a group by surrendering one&#039;s ego or self-interest to a higher purpose. It is not a method for maximizing individual autonomy but for optimizing group solidarity and effectiveness.


What consensus is not:
•	democracy as we know it – the tyranny of the majority
•	a selection among alternative, competing proposals
•	a method of compromise
•	a forum for egotism, manipulation, or power over
•	a quick and easy way to get to a group decision


What consensus is:
•	a respectful hearing of all perspectives
•	a safe space to voice concerns
•	an enterprise aimed at the highest good of the group
•	a process by which a group mind emerges from individual input
•	a way to synthesize various ideas or perspectives into a uniquely new outcome


What consensus requires:
•	skillful facilitation and &quot;vibes-watching&quot;
•	a close-knit group with a clear common purpose, vision or values
•	that everyone who wishes to speak gets a chance to do so
•	that everyone truly listens to those who speak (rather than rehearsing a rebuttal)
•	that the facilitator (or someone else) recognizes an emerging synergy of ideas
•	that each participant discerns whether the consensus is in the best interest of the group
•	that only those with profound concerns voice their objections (avoid nit-picking)
•	that the group try to satisfy the objections or incorporate opposing ideas
•	that those with strategic objections decide whether they can stand aside (agree to disagree) for the sake of the group 
•	that those with deep moral or philosophical objections discern whether they should leave the group
•	that a proposal gets &quot;blocked&quot; (not &quot;is blocked&quot; – on one has veto power) only when someone believes that it violates the foundational values of the group, and the facilitator recognizes the violation or the group is inclined to agree.
•	that a group consensus can be overturned or altered only by another group consensus


Note: A &quot;fall-back&quot; procedure to majority, or super-majority vote, may be required as a stepping-stone while a group develops the ability to work through to consensus, but should be recognized as a violation of the goals of consensus decision-making and harmonious group process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consensus Decision-Making<br />
A Path to Collective Consciousness</p>
<p>Robert Riversong<br />
Written October 15, 2002<br />
Revised April 8, 2012</p>
<p>In Native American talking circles, they say:<br />
&#8220;We just speak until there is nothing left but the obvious truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Consensus decision-making process is a method of nurturing the spirit of a group by surrendering one&#8217;s ego or self-interest to a higher purpose. It is not a method for maximizing individual autonomy but for optimizing group solidarity and effectiveness.</p>
<p>What consensus is not:<br />
•	democracy as we know it – the tyranny of the majority<br />
•	a selection among alternative, competing proposals<br />
•	a method of compromise<br />
•	a forum for egotism, manipulation, or power over<br />
•	a quick and easy way to get to a group decision</p>
<p>What consensus is:<br />
•	a respectful hearing of all perspectives<br />
•	a safe space to voice concerns<br />
•	an enterprise aimed at the highest good of the group<br />
•	a process by which a group mind emerges from individual input<br />
•	a way to synthesize various ideas or perspectives into a uniquely new outcome</p>
<p>What consensus requires:<br />
•	skillful facilitation and &#8220;vibes-watching&#8221;<br />
•	a close-knit group with a clear common purpose, vision or values<br />
•	that everyone who wishes to speak gets a chance to do so<br />
•	that everyone truly listens to those who speak (rather than rehearsing a rebuttal)<br />
•	that the facilitator (or someone else) recognizes an emerging synergy of ideas<br />
•	that each participant discerns whether the consensus is in the best interest of the group<br />
•	that only those with profound concerns voice their objections (avoid nit-picking)<br />
•	that the group try to satisfy the objections or incorporate opposing ideas<br />
•	that those with strategic objections decide whether they can stand aside (agree to disagree) for the sake of the group<br />
•	that those with deep moral or philosophical objections discern whether they should leave the group<br />
•	that a proposal gets &#8220;blocked&#8221; (not &#8220;is blocked&#8221; – on one has veto power) only when someone believes that it violates the foundational values of the group, and the facilitator recognizes the violation or the group is inclined to agree.<br />
•	that a group consensus can be overturned or altered only by another group consensus</p>
<p>Note: A &#8220;fall-back&#8221; procedure to majority, or super-majority vote, may be required as a stepping-stone while a group develops the ability to work through to consensus, but should be recognized as a violation of the goals of consensus decision-making and harmonious group process.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Direct Democracy Process 101 by Riversong</title>
		<link>http://occupyvermont.wordpress.com/direct-democracy-process-101/#comment-1014</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Secondly, the most common misuse of the consensus process is by the mistaken inclusion of the ability of one person to &quot;block&quot; an otherwise consensual decision.

Among Quakers, it is understood that the voice of Spirit may come through one or many, and as such it is imperative for all to listen well to the lone dissenter to discern whether the lonely voice carries a fundamental message for the group.

Among political activists, it&#039;s far more likely that the lone dissenter is acting from ego or ideology than from Spirit, or simply being a provocateur intent on disrupting process and preventing the group from taking action.

No one has the ability to block a group decision, since consensus is not meant to empower the individual as individual, but to transform the individual into one who seeks the highest good of the group, the action, or the movement. Granting inordinate personal power undermines the ideology, purpose and goals of the Occupy movement.

If the term &quot;block&quot; is even to be used (and I, as one who has worked with and taught the consensus process for 35 years, would recommend that it be eliminated from our lexicon), it should be used in the passive sense: &quot;it appears that this decision is blocked at this time&quot;. That shifts the power from the dissenter to the group. 

[I&#039;m not sure what the word or character limit is for these comments, so I&#039;m going to attempt to post, in another reply, a checklist on consensus that I wrote ten years ago.]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secondly, the most common misuse of the consensus process is by the mistaken inclusion of the ability of one person to &#8220;block&#8221; an otherwise consensual decision.</p>
<p>Among Quakers, it is understood that the voice of Spirit may come through one or many, and as such it is imperative for all to listen well to the lone dissenter to discern whether the lonely voice carries a fundamental message for the group.</p>
<p>Among political activists, it&#8217;s far more likely that the lone dissenter is acting from ego or ideology than from Spirit, or simply being a provocateur intent on disrupting process and preventing the group from taking action.</p>
<p>No one has the ability to block a group decision, since consensus is not meant to empower the individual as individual, but to transform the individual into one who seeks the highest good of the group, the action, or the movement. Granting inordinate personal power undermines the ideology, purpose and goals of the Occupy movement.</p>
<p>If the term &#8220;block&#8221; is even to be used (and I, as one who has worked with and taught the consensus process for 35 years, would recommend that it be eliminated from our lexicon), it should be used in the passive sense: &#8220;it appears that this decision is blocked at this time&#8221;. That shifts the power from the dissenter to the group. </p>
<p>[I'm not sure what the word or character limit is for these comments, so I'm going to attempt to post, in another reply, a checklist on consensus that I wrote ten years ago.]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Direct Democracy Process 101 by Riversong</title>
		<link>http://occupyvermont.wordpress.com/direct-democracy-process-101/#comment-1013</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Riversong]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2012 17:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The process tools and facilitation roles that Occupy has developed can be effective, if not efficient. But it can be dangerous and self-destructive for a movement to profess the mythology of &quot;leaderlessness&quot;. A lack of formal leadership, which would allow accountability, almost invariably results in an informal leadership cadre or competing cadres with no accountability. 

I would recommend to those who haven&#039;t, a reading of the classic 1970 essay by Jo Freeman of the early-modern women&#039;s liberation movement, &quot;The Tyranny of Stucturelessness&quot;. http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm

As Hilary Wainwright wrote in Zmag, Freeman described how &quot;this apparent lack of structure too often disguised an informal, unacknowledged and unaccountable leadership that was all the more pernicious because its very existence was denied.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The process tools and facilitation roles that Occupy has developed can be effective, if not efficient. But it can be dangerous and self-destructive for a movement to profess the mythology of &#8220;leaderlessness&#8221;. A lack of formal leadership, which would allow accountability, almost invariably results in an informal leadership cadre or competing cadres with no accountability. </p>
<p>I would recommend to those who haven&#8217;t, a reading of the classic 1970 essay by Jo Freeman of the early-modern women&#8217;s liberation movement, &#8220;The Tyranny of Stucturelessness&#8221;. <a href="http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/tyranny.htm</a></p>
<p>As Hilary Wainwright wrote in Zmag, Freeman described how &#8220;this apparent lack of structure too often disguised an informal, unacknowledged and unaccountable leadership that was all the more pernicious because its very existence was denied.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Members of #OccupyVermont #Burlington Bring Recommendations to #Mayor Weinberger by Nat</title>
		<link>http://occupyvermont.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/members-of-occupyvermont-burlington-bring-recommendations-to-mayor-weinberger/#comment-1007</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2012 18:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ECHO CENTER
&quot;OUR BODY THE UNIVERSE WITHIN&quot;
ANYONE GOING TO BE PROTESTING LIKE IN FRANCE AND AMSTERDAM?
That these Chinese cadavers are very possibly executed prisoners according to dissidents etc?
April 14-Sept 3

(sorry if this is is the wrong spot-it is Burlington related)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ECHO CENTER<br />
&#8220;OUR BODY THE UNIVERSE WITHIN&#8221;<br />
ANYONE GOING TO BE PROTESTING LIKE IN FRANCE AND AMSTERDAM?<br />
That these Chinese cadavers are very possibly executed prisoners according to dissidents etc?<br />
April 14-Sept 3</p>
<p>(sorry if this is is the wrong spot-it is Burlington related)</p>
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		<title>Comment on #OccupyVermont &#8211; Burlington Working Groups Calendar by Harold Kuester</title>
		<link>http://occupyvermont.wordpress.com/burlington-working-group-calendar/#comment-973</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold Kuester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:44:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that my novel [information attached] could be useful to the Occupy Movement, which inspired its re-release as an e-book with a new cover. It was initially published as a paperback before the Wall Street economic debacle became obvious, but it remains relevant to the current situation. Please share the novel information with your members.  Here&#039;s hoping that it proves to be a useful symbol.

Remedy: D.E.T.O.X.X. America
(Politics/Finance // Mystery/Suspense)

Amazon E-book / Novel $2.99

What’s the difference between reality and fiction?
Fiction makes sense.

1% versus 99%
Grossly Excessive Income Disparity
Living Wage Movement
March on Washington
Politics: Money Power versus People Power
Corrupt Financial Interests
Collapse of Stock Markets and Banks
Unique Love Affair
Space Station Sabotage
Signals from an Alien Planet

Reality?  Fiction?

“An allegorical novel that intertwines the volatile economic and political landscape of America with the cultural conflicts of an advanced alien race….In a clever play on worlds, the discord faced by the Pisceans [aliens] is eerily comparable to events occurring in America.” ~ KIRKUS REVIEWS

Author Harold Kuester taught philosophy and religion in a city easily mistaken for the one where the March on Washington chronicled in this novel begins.  He has a long-standing commitment to “promote the general welfare” and “establish justice.“  Wishing the Occupy movement every success, he offers his novel, hoping it will inspire courage and perseverance, as well as offering a good read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that my novel [information attached] could be useful to the Occupy Movement, which inspired its re-release as an e-book with a new cover. It was initially published as a paperback before the Wall Street economic debacle became obvious, but it remains relevant to the current situation. Please share the novel information with your members.  Here&#8217;s hoping that it proves to be a useful symbol.</p>
<p>Remedy: D.E.T.O.X.X. America<br />
(Politics/Finance // Mystery/Suspense)</p>
<p>Amazon E-book / Novel $2.99</p>
<p>What’s the difference between reality and fiction?<br />
Fiction makes sense.</p>
<p>1% versus 99%<br />
Grossly Excessive Income Disparity<br />
Living Wage Movement<br />
March on Washington<br />
Politics: Money Power versus People Power<br />
Corrupt Financial Interests<br />
Collapse of Stock Markets and Banks<br />
Unique Love Affair<br />
Space Station Sabotage<br />
Signals from an Alien Planet</p>
<p>Reality?  Fiction?</p>
<p>“An allegorical novel that intertwines the volatile economic and political landscape of America with the cultural conflicts of an advanced alien race….In a clever play on worlds, the discord faced by the Pisceans [aliens] is eerily comparable to events occurring in America.” ~ KIRKUS REVIEWS</p>
<p>Author Harold Kuester taught philosophy and religion in a city easily mistaken for the one where the March on Washington chronicled in this novel begins.  He has a long-standing commitment to “promote the general welfare” and “establish justice.“  Wishing the Occupy movement every success, he offers his novel, hoping it will inspire courage and perseverance, as well as offering a good read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About #OccupyVermont by Harold Kuester</title>
		<link>http://occupyvermont.wordpress.com/about/#comment-972</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Harold Kuester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Apr 2012 23:41:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe that my novel [information attached] could be useful to the Occupy Movement, which inspired its re-release as an e-book with a new cover. It was initially published as a paperback before the Wall Street economic debacle became obvious, but it remains relevant to the current situation. Please share the novel information with your members.  Here&#039;s hoping that it proves to be a useful symbol.

Remedy: D.E.T.O.X.X. America
(Politics/Finance // Mystery/Suspense)

Amazon E-book / Novel $2.99

What’s the difference between reality and fiction?
Fiction makes sense.

1% versus 99%
Grossly Excessive Income Disparity
Living Wage Movement
March on Washington
Politics: Money Power versus People Power
Corrupt Financial Interests
Collapse of Stock Markets and Banks
Unique Love Affair
Space Station Sabotage
Signals from an Alien Planet

Reality?  Fiction?

“An allegorical novel that intertwines the volatile economic and political landscape of America with the cultural conflicts of an advanced alien race….In a clever play on worlds, the discord faced by the Pisceans [aliens] is eerily comparable to events occurring in America.” ~ KIRKUS REVIEWS

Author Harold Kuester taught philosophy and religion in a city easily mistaken for the one where the March on Washington chronicled in this novel begins.  He has a long-standing commitment to “promote the general welfare” and “establish justice.“  Wishing the Occupy movement every success, he offers his novel, hoping it will inspire courage and perseverance, as well as offering a good read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that my novel [information attached] could be useful to the Occupy Movement, which inspired its re-release as an e-book with a new cover. It was initially published as a paperback before the Wall Street economic debacle became obvious, but it remains relevant to the current situation. Please share the novel information with your members.  Here&#8217;s hoping that it proves to be a useful symbol.</p>
<p>Remedy: D.E.T.O.X.X. America<br />
(Politics/Finance // Mystery/Suspense)</p>
<p>Amazon E-book / Novel $2.99</p>
<p>What’s the difference between reality and fiction?<br />
Fiction makes sense.</p>
<p>1% versus 99%<br />
Grossly Excessive Income Disparity<br />
Living Wage Movement<br />
March on Washington<br />
Politics: Money Power versus People Power<br />
Corrupt Financial Interests<br />
Collapse of Stock Markets and Banks<br />
Unique Love Affair<br />
Space Station Sabotage<br />
Signals from an Alien Planet</p>
<p>Reality?  Fiction?</p>
<p>“An allegorical novel that intertwines the volatile economic and political landscape of America with the cultural conflicts of an advanced alien race….In a clever play on worlds, the discord faced by the Pisceans [aliens] is eerily comparable to events occurring in America.” ~ KIRKUS REVIEWS</p>
<p>Author Harold Kuester taught philosophy and religion in a city easily mistaken for the one where the March on Washington chronicled in this novel begins.  He has a long-standing commitment to “promote the general welfare” and “establish justice.“  Wishing the Occupy movement every success, he offers his novel, hoping it will inspire courage and perseverance, as well as offering a good read.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Vermonters Protest Senator Leahy for NDAA by PPH Sports Betting</title>
		<link>http://occupyvermont.wordpress.com/2012/01/11/vermonters-protest-senator-leahy-for-ndaa/#comment-964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PPH Sports Betting]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great site!!! This information was really helpful. I truly appreciate it. I will visit more often for updates. Keep up the good work!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great site!!! This information was really helpful. I truly appreciate it. I will visit more often for updates. Keep up the good work!</p>
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